{"id":246704,"date":"2022-07-04T19:00:56","date_gmt":"2022-07-04T18:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cryptoslate.com\/?p=246704"},"modified":"2022-07-04T17:15:13","modified_gmt":"2022-07-04T16:15:13","slug":"roger-ver-delivers-disappointing-statement-on-unfolding-coinflex-saga","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cryptoslate.com\/roger-ver-delivers-disappointing-statement-on-unfolding-coinflex-saga\/","title":{"rendered":"Roger Ver delivers &#8216;disappointing&#8217; statement on unfolding CoinFLEX saga"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Roger Ver gave his take on the CoinFLEX situation during the latest <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bitjson\/status\/1542578372118724608\">Bitcoin Cash Hangout<\/a> session.<\/p>\n<p>Sadly, for everyone affected, Ver could not offer new information, saying legal agreements prevent him from saying more at this time.<\/p>\n<h2>Catch up on the goings-on at Coinflex<\/h2>\n<p>On June 24, crypto exchange <a href=\"https:\/\/coinflex.com\/blog\/coinflex-update-on-withdrawals\/\">CoinFLEX<\/a> announced it was pausing user withdrawals &#8220;due to extreme market conditions,&#8221; and &#8220;continued uncertainty involving a counterparty.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Later, the counterparty mentioned in the statement turned out to be Bitcoin Cash (BCH) proponent <a href=\"https:\/\/cryptoslate.com\/coinflex-ceo-claims-investor-roger-ver-personally-owes-the-exchange-47m-usdc\/\">Ver<\/a>. CoinFLEX CEO Mark Lamb alleged that Ver, who is an investor in the company, owes the exchange $47 million in USDC.<\/p>\n<p>The debt is said to relate to Ver's CoinFLEX account, which went into negative equity. Under normal circumstances, service providers automatically liquidate the position. However, CoinFLEX stated they have an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2022\/06\/29\/crypto-exchange-coinflex-claims-roger-ver-is-behind-47-million-debt.html\">agreement<\/a> with Ver to keep positions open, which led to mounting losses as prices tumbled.<\/p>\n<p>Backing this agreement were &#8220;stringent personal guarantees,&#8221; Lamb said Ver had, in the past, always topped up margin calls in accordance with the agreement.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rogerkver\/status\/1541822377461415936\">Ver<\/a> denied the allegations and turned the tables on CoinFLEX, saying the company owes him &#8220;a substantial sum of money.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Recently some rumors have been<br \/>spreading that I have defaulted on a<br \/>debt to a counter-party. These rumors<br \/>are false. Not only do I not have a debt<br \/>to this counter-party, but this counter-<br \/>party owes me a substantial sum of<br \/>money, and I am currently seeking the<br \/>return of my funds.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Roger Ver (@rogerkver) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rogerkver\/status\/1541822377461415936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 28, 2022<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>To reinstate withdrawals, Lamb proposed the &#8220;recovery value USD&#8221; (rvUSD) token, which represents the tokenization of the $47 million blackhole.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/crypto\/status\/1541811430604808194\">Bloomberg<\/a>, the CoinFLEX CEO described it as a possible solution to getting withdrawals reinstated quickly.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Right now we can't have withdrawals, there are lots of different ways of solving these problems in crypto finance, and crypto is on the cutting edge of finance.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>With CoinFLEX withdrawals on pause, another issue that has come to light is the knock-on implications to do with Smart Bitcoin Cash, also known as <a href=\"https:\/\/coinflex.com\/education\/smartbch\/\">SmartBCH<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>SmartBCH is an Ethereum EVM and Web3 compatible sidechain operated via CoinFLEX, which provides the bridge between the BCH mainchain and Smart BCH sidechain.<\/p>\n<p>Should CoinFLEX go under, the BCH locked in SmartBCH may be sold off to cover outstanding debts, potentially spelling the end of the sidechain.<\/p>\n<h2>What's the latest from Ver<\/h2>\n<p>Speaking on the latest <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/i\/spaces\/1OyKADgXwowxb?s=20\">Bitcoin Cash Hangout<\/a>, aired on July 3, Ver reiterated that he owes &#8220;no debt to CoinFLEX,&#8221; and that the embattled crypto exchange owes him money.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;my statement is probably going to be a bit disappointing to the people that are on the call here, but due to the lawyers that have already been involved in the legal complexities there, all I can say at the moment is I have no debt to CoinFLEX.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Justifying his &#8220;disappointing&#8221; response, Ver cited the involvement of lawyers and a confidentiality agreement in place, which he intends to keep.<\/p>\n<p>Ver added that he is looking forward to the &#8220;full and complete and entire truth&#8221; of the situation coming out as soon as possible.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Roger Ver gave his take on the CoinFLEX situation during the latest Bitcoin Cash Hangout session. 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