{"id":14496,"date":"2021-09-15T15:32:53","date_gmt":"2021-09-15T15:32:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ci028d4c046000269e"},"modified":"2021-09-15T15:32:53","modified_gmt":"2021-09-15T15:32:53","slug":"ray-dalio-doesnt-understand-bitcoin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/culture\/ray-dalio-doesnt-understand-bitcoin","title":{"rendered":"Ray Dalio Doesn\u2019t Understand Bitcoin"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"bsf_rt_marker\"><\/div><p>Ray Dalio, co-chief investment officer of Bridgewater Associates, one of the world\u2019s largest hedge funds, owns some Bitcoin, but in an <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SquawkCNBC\/status\/1438122407965954054\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">interview<\/a> with <em>CNBC<\/em> on Wednesday he demonstrated that he still doesn\u2019t understand or believe in it as a superior store of value to gold.<\/p>\n<p>Dalio believes that governments can kill the globally distributed Bitcoin Network, but he has not commented on how that could be possible. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think at the end of the day if it\u2019s really successful, they will kill it and they will try to kill it. And I think they will kill it because they have ways of killing it,\u201d Dalio told Andrew Sorkin on <em>CNBC<\/em>\u2019s \u201cSquawk Box\u201d at the SALT conference in New York.<\/p>\n<p>While regulations for Bitcoin will surely develop in the coming years, and popular on-ramps and off-ramps to investing may have to tighten their restrictions or close altogether in some regions, it is impossible to stop Bitcoin transactions. <\/p>\n<p>Dalio generalized, \u201cYou have El Salvador taking on it and you have India and China getting rid of it. And you have the United States talking about how to regulate it and it could still be controlled.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Dalio\u2019s statement grossly understated the fact that El Salvador has adopted Bitcoin as a legal tender, putting Bitcoin in direct competition with the dollar as currency in that nation. It is important to note that while Bitcoin is arguably the strongest asset in the world, the dollar maintains its hold as the world\u2019s strongest currency. <\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, China hasn\u2019t gotten rid of Bitcoin at all. They have recently banned Bitcoin mining, which ended up being a rather poorly thought out attack on the network, resulting in China being removed as a serious contender for Bitcoin\u2019s global hash rate. <\/p>\n<p>During the interview, Dalio also said that Bitcoin doesn\u2019t have intrinsic value. This is a fundamental flaw in the thinking of many traditional investors and Keynesian economists. Nothing has intrinsic value. There is no such thing as objective worth. Value is completely subjective, as most Bitcoiners would readily admit. <\/p>\n<p>The idea that value is subjective is oft-parroted by economists who are trying to create constant measures where really there are none. This misunderstanding stems from physics envy. It stems from Keynesian economists pretending economics is a hard science. It is not.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are so many things in a historical perspective that didn\u2019t have intrinsic value and had perceived value. And then it went hot and it became cold. It could be either way. You just have to know what it is. It could be Tulips in Holland,\u201d Dalio said. <\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, lack of knowledge has not prevented the billionaire investor from buying Bitcoin as a hedge against inflation, which would indicate that he does understand that Bitcoin is one, if not the best store of value across space, time, and scale.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s worth considering all the alternatives to cash and all the alternatives to the other financial assets. Bitcoin is a possibility. I have a certain amount of money in bitcoin.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>To conclude, Dalio admitted, \u201cIt is an amazing accomplishment to have brought [Bitcoin] from where that programming occurred to where it is through the test of time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Still, the investor has made it abundantly clear that he believes gold is a better store of value. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you put a gun to my head, and you said, \u2018I can only have one,\u2019\u201d Dalio said in another <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/business\/ray-dalio-still-wrong-about-bitcoin\">interview<\/a> with <em>CNBC,<\/em>&nbsp;\u201cI would choose gold.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Why He\u2019s Wrong<\/h3>\n<p>While gold has historically been a hedge against fiat inflation, bitcoiners believe that Bitcoin has subsumed gold in its functions, virtues and necessity.<\/p>\n<p>Bitcoin is more salable across space, time, and scale than gold. The issuance of Bitcoin will stop at 21 million coins, whereas gold will be mined until none exists anywhere in the universe. The only thing limiting the inflation of the gold supply is the amount of resources we devote to the task of mining it, and on that front, we\u2019ve barely scratched the surface of the earth.<\/p>\n<p>One explanation for Dalio holding gold over Bitcoin as a store of value is a misguided belief that Bitcoin will be simply outlawed by the U.S. government. Bitcoin as a network and a currency, however, is resistant to government capture, unlike gold.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, as we have seen over and over again in China and India, Bitcoin can be regulated, but it cannot be stopped. Governments have no control over the protocol, and no power to halt, alter or confiscate Bitcoin transactions.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, the physical nature of gold, and the impracticality of storing it safely makes it easily confiscatable by third parties and governments alike. Note that all standard Good Delivery Gold Bars must be held in third party custody to be recognized as valid, and the vast majority of investors\u2019 gold is held in banks.<\/p>\n<p>For now, Dalio just doesn\u2019t see Bitcoin as a store of value, which is arguably its strongest and one of its most obvious virtues:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just think of it as diversification,\u201d he said.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ray Dalio owns some Bitcoin, but in an interview with CNBC on Wednesday he demonstrated that he still doesn\u2019t understand it or believe it to be a superior store of value to gold.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2936,"featured_media":14497,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33],"tags":[559,2015],"class_list":["post-14496","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-culture","tag-gold","tag-ray-dalio"],"author_data":{"id":2936,"name":"Alex Mcshane","nicename":"bitcoin-journalist-alex-mcshane","avatar_url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/3dd6bbed938cbadeed734dfff7b3964c2a43e2784e2d9ead80b8d5476f8209f1?s=96&d=robohash&r=g"},"featured_image_url":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/exc09-15_a.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14496","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2936"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14496"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14496\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14497"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14496"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14496"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14496"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}